Chamberlain/Liftmaster MyQ Operation Plugin

Hi guys,

Has anyone looked a plugin to integrate Chamberlain/Liftmaster MyQ devices into Vera?

They sell a gateway, GDO, wall switch, and plugin module that all operate over rolling code.

The gateway sends out the rolling code signals to the devices, and operates via an app or web portal, so I believe it would accept some type of HTTP coding.

Any ideas?

If a moderator wanted to work on this project, I would be able to provide a wall switch, plugin, and gateway kit (I have connections). It would only be a moderator or some verified party that I would send this out to (so I’m not sending free kits to everyone)

Reading their site, this stuff comes across as a closed system, requiring users to go through their [Hosted] Portal to access the garage door. Unless they document a local-API option, it’s probably not going to be worthwhile going down this route.

ie. What happens when their [hosted] Portal system is down?

If the vendor is also willing to publish full, local-use, API specs that don’t require the [hosted] Portal, you may get some more bites. It also seems to require folks to replace their existing Door control unit with their 8360 (or similiar) which is about $300 in itself, and then there’s the yearly fee for ongoing use (per Amazon site)

Door opening/closing, along with the bits for sensing if it’s open, is a lot cheaper to retrofit to an existing door than that.

[quote=“guessed, post:2, topic:170458”]Reading their site, this stuff comes across as a closed system, requiring users to go through their [Hosted] Portal to access the garage door. Unless they document a local-API option, it’s probably not going to be worthwhile going down this route.

ie. What happens when their [hosted] Portal system is down?

If the vendor is also willing to publish full, local-use, API specs that don’t require the [hosted] Portal, you may get some more bites. It also seems to require folks to replace their existing Door control unit with their 8360 (or similiar) which is about $300 in itself, and then there’s the yearly fee for ongoing use (per Amazon site)

Door opening/closing, along with the bits for sensing if it’s open, is a lot cheaper to retrofit to an existing door than that.[/quote]

@Guessed

I just purchased and installed the Liftmaster MyQ. To correct some misconceptions. My garage door open was purchased in 2007 and thus was not MYQ enabled. As a result I had to purchase a new opener wall/control panel (Liftmaster 888LM) and a gateway (828LM). Total investment less than $82. The system works well.

I can’t comment on the API. Perhaps Liftmaster is willing to release it. However, there is no yearly charge for on-going use.

It would be nice if we can integrate it with Vera.

Don

Looks like LM intro’d the new opener/wall control panel (888LM) in January this yr so that’s definitely new, and will lower the overall cost of their MyQ system.

Unfortunately until LM offer an open API, or someone chooses to reverse engineer their existing one, the system will still be closed to integration.

BTW: I paid ~$35 on eBay for parts to integrate my doors, wirelessly, directly into my Alarm system… which in turn is integrated into Vera. I can see whether my garage door is open from a variety of devices, locally and remotely, as well as the Alarm Control Keypads themselves (it’s on a second, isolated, Partition)

I’ve wired it for open/close also, via the same connection, but never bothered to set that part up. In my state it’s illegal to connect automated open/close control circuits in my state (AFAIK)

So as I understand it, MyQ is NOT Z-Wave, Zigbe or Insteon?

[quote=“guessed, post:4, topic:170458”]Looks like LM intro’d the new opener/wall control panel (888LM) in January this yr so that’s definitely new, and will lower the overall cost of their MyQ system.

Unfortunately until LM offer an open API, or someone chooses to reverse engineer their existing one, the system will still be closed to integration.

BTW: I paid ~$35 on eBay for parts to integrate my doors, wirelessly, directly into my Alarm system… which in turn is integrated into Vera. I can see whether my garage door is open from a variety of devices, locally and remotely, as well as the Alarm Control Keypads themselves (it’s on a second, isolated, Partition)

I’ve wired it for open/close also, via the same connection, but never bothered to set that part up. In my state it’s illegal to connect automated open/close control circuits in my state (AFAIK)[/quote]

What state are you referring to?

I live in CA, and it’s what I had heard from local installers (etc) back in 2008.

Doing a little hunting, it likely relates to UL 325’s requirements for unattended operation. I don’t have access to those, but my understanding (check with local specialists for the accurate defn) is that, for residential equipment they must meet a few items:
a) Must be fitted with the standard “detector” mechanism that causes the lift to “fail-open” when it hits, or is likely to hit, something.
b) Must only be fitted to sectional garage doors.
c) Must be equipped with some sort of audible/visual warning prior to motion (5 seconds?)

At least, that’s what I could find without direct access to the UL 325 definition. I suspect (a) and (b) are being done, just because of the newer doors, but © is likely not based upon the discussions people have (where they never mention it).

Maybe we use the Sonos Plugin to play this before the door starts to move:
https://ia600202.us.archive.org/1/items/EDIS-SRP-0197-06/EDIS-SRP-0197-06.mp3
(give it a few seconds to start playing)

I have a liftmaster as well. I haven’t taken the plunge for their system but it looks pretty good. The ability to know the door state is nice because they are more tightly coupled to the GDO system.

That said I just use an $18.33 CA3500, a salvaged 12VDC transformer (free), and a $3 Bosch auto relay to perform my GDO solution. I also have a camera in the garage DCS-932 just because of inherent risks of remote and unattended GDO operation.

I don’t use the GDO plugin. I just have a scene running in the background that looks for me turning on the receptacle that closes the relay. Once it sees the receptacle on, it waits 2 seconds and shuts it off. This creates the momentary closure at the relay contacts. Had it running 6+ months. No issues so far. Creeps my neighbor out a bit when I open garage to check for rain when I am in another state for work. :wink:

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,4773.msg111673.html#msg111673

Does anyone know how or to what degree this works? Is it a binary open/closed state or will it tell you the percent open the door is currently in? I’ve seen demonstration videos that show animated opening/closing images on smart phones, but that doesn’t mean that the animation is actually tied to the door’s true position or motion. If I stop the door 3/4 way down will the app display the door at 3/4, when I look at the app 30 minutes later?

I’m not sure it is reported in the app but my door opener has an optical wheel scheme for the shaft position. I have the Liftmaster 3800 which is a jackshaft style opener which is less common. I suspect it uses the optical wheel to determining the limits of travel and in the soft start/ soft stop of the door travel.

I know the older traditional liftmaster merely had limit switches for travel so could only tell if, open, closed, somewhere in between…

Take a look at these sites. This might be a start.

http://www.arrayent.com/case-studies/increasing-convenience-with-liftmaster/

https://sites.google.com/a/arrayent.com/api/reference

I have installed the Chamberlain myQ hub and remote sensor on a garage door with a circa 2009 Liftmaster Professional opener. This “hub and sensor” took less than 10 minutes to install. Another 5 minutes to create an user account at Chamberlain and to download the iPhone app… Yes, it works perfectly. To answer the question regarding the GUI… It does show the door fully opened or fully closed when the door is moving. ONLY if you stop the door will it show the door “half way up/down”… but it does show the position of the door. I have not tested to see how accurate.

I too, am waiting to see if there is a possibility to integrate with Vera. This might be a great opportunity for one of the controller app guys or even Chamberlain to JUMP to the head of the line.

[quote=“guessed, post:6, topic:170458”]Doing a little hunting, it likely relates to UL 325’s requirements for unattended operation. I don’t have access to those, but my understanding (check with local specialists for the accurate defn) is that, for residential equipment they must meet a few items:
a) Must be fitted with the standard “detector” mechanism that causes the lift to “fail-open” when it hits, or is likely to hit, something.
b) Must only be fitted to sectional garage doors.
c) Must be equipped with some sort of audible/visual warning prior to motion (5 seconds?)[/quote]

This is important. To those with the “$35 DIY” solutions I hope no one is ever injured by your unattended garage door closing. A lawsuit any PI lawyer would love to have.

I installed the MyQ on my several year old Craftsman branded Chamberlain opener. I got the parts at Amazon for about $65 and it took about 15 minutes to install and get running. Adding it to the second garage door is even cheaper because the gateway, the more expensive of the 2 parts, can control more than 1 door. The wall controller for the second door would only be $24.

It works great by itself and while I wish it would integrate with Vera the fact that it may never is not a show-stopper to me.

I will look at the Lowe’s solution when it’s released. If it does everything advertised I might switch to that for the Vera integration (assuming it works with Vera; I’m still waiting to see if Vera will ever support the smoke detectors).

[quote=“1puttpro, post:11, topic:170458”]I have installed the Chamberlain myQ hub and remote sensor on a garage door with a circa 2009 Liftmaster Professional opener. This “hub and sensor” took less than 10 minutes to install. Another 5 minutes to create an user account at Chamberlain and to download the iPhone app… Yes, it works perfectly. To answer the question regarding the GUI… It does show the door fully opened or fully closed when the door is moving. ONLY if you stop the door will it show the door “half way up/down”… but it does show the position of the door. I have not tested to see how accurate.

I too, am waiting to see if there is a possibility to integrate with Vera. This might be a great opportunity for one of the controller app guys or even Chamberlain to JUMP to the head of the line.[/quote]

What do you mean by installing a remote sensor?
I have a Liftmaster 8355 and I thought this was the only needed device?
http://www.liftmaster.com/lmcv2/accessorydetail/9570/liftmaster-internet-gateway/

Ignore me, you had to do a retrofit, right?

Anyway, anyone make any progress on a plugin, would sound like a perfect plugin

Looks like someone did a little work:
http://docs.unofficialliftmastermyq.apiary.io/

appears to be a dead-end, evidently their API is meant for their "customers’ (e.g. LiftMaster)

I did email Chamberlain asking if they would open the API - which would seem to be a win-win for everyone – so far, no response.

I had my LiftMaster installed yesterday and hooked up the gateway with the door and downloaded the myQ app. It found the gateway (after entering its serial #) and then I paired the garage doors and was able to remotely control them through their app. When you open or close the door via the app there’s about a 5 to 10 second delay as the lights flash and then there’s a beeping noise. I guess this is saying: “Hey, you, wake up - doors are coming up or down; don’t get crushed”

Maybe others can ping Chamberlain asking for them to open the API to their customers or has anyone attempted to capture the traffic coming to the gateway?

No huge surprise here, they said that a customer accessing their APIs is against their terms of service but they are gauging community interest.

Can’t resist.

LMAO!!

I am interested in tying into the MyQ control panel (http://www.liftmaster.com/lmcv2/accessorydetail/19675/myq-control-panel/) with a pair of wires to simulate someone pushing the open/close button on this wall button.
As I understand the MyQ system, you can not trigger the opener with a simple short of the red/white wired connections at the back of this opener. Can anyone else confirm this as tech support at LM is no help.
I would then like to tie our RM10 and an appliance module into this button instead of the opener. I am sure it will work if the MyQ panel does use a standard Normally Open button.
Any thoughts?

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