[quote=“lastmacuser, post:133, topic:199656”][quote=“melih, post:131, topic:199656”]We have a different business model…We believe the future of home automation is in being a platform and not selling hardware.
We will make money from other services that requires home automation…We see many brand new services from home security to facial recognition to many other services being common place in the future. We want our platform to create an ecosystem to provide these services.[/quote]
With that platform approach, are you seeing any hardware? Or are we looking at tablet, phone based software only.[/quote]
Totally, a lot of hardware! I see us innovating cost effective hardware and push it to market via our partners.
A lot has been written about firmware, I’m wondering what hardware is to be used.
Will it be something totally different or will it be recycled Vera’s?
[quote=“zedrally, post:137, topic:199656”]A lot has been written about firmware, I’m wondering what hardware is to be used.
Will it be something totally different or will it be recycled Vera’s?[/quote]
Totally new platform. We will have multiple different variation.
1)With our RTOS
2)With Linux
We will have different chipsets for different platforms providing us with ability to cut costs.
[quote=“melih, post:138, topic:199656”][quote=“zedrally, post:137, topic:199656”]A lot has been written about firmware, I’m wondering what hardware is to be used.
Will it be something totally different or will it be recycled Vera’s?[/quote]
Totally new platform. We will have multiple different variation.
1)With our RTOS
2)With Linux
We will have different chipsets for different platforms providing us with ability to cut costs.[/quote]
Are the Vera HAC’s eg Plus going to get moved to your RTOS?
Personally I think OpenWRT is half the problem the Vera HAC’s.
[quote=“dJOS, post:139, topic:199656”][quote=“melih, post:138, topic:199656”][quote=“zedrally, post:137, topic:199656”]A lot has been written about firmware, I’m wondering what hardware is to be used.
Will it be something totally different or will it be recycled Vera’s?[/quote]
Totally new platform. We will have multiple different variation.
1)With our RTOS
2)With Linux
We will have different chipsets for different platforms providing us with ability to cut costs.[/quote]
Are the Vera HAC’s eg Plus going to get moved to your RTOS?
Personally I think OpenWRT is half the problem the Vera HAC’s.[/quote]
Yes, thats the idea…We are thinking of re-writing the luup engine plus updating it on our own RTOS and systems…this way, it will be much more efficient, fast, optimized and updated with new features while still providing backward compatibility.
[quote=“melih, post:140, topic:199656”][quote=“dJOS, post:139, topic:199656”]Are the Vera HAC’s eg Plus going to get moved to your RTOS?
Personally I think OpenWRT is half the problem the Vera HAC’s.[/quote]
Yes, thats the idea…We are thinking of re-writing the luup engine plus updating it on our own RTOS and systems…this way, it will be much more efficient, fast, optimized and updated with new features while still providing backward compatibility.[/quote]
I am a bit puzzled. New firmware OS is nice, but I read that will be for new hardware models only. Not the currently supported. Same time I read that the models from Edge up are powerful enough for their purpose. Mine run at 20-25% with a number of plugins that process quite a bit of data, so i see that too.
So, will need to buy new controllers soon for all this, or can we keep what we have? I know migrating a controller to a new one can get you in a log of trouble, especially with battery devices, so I would like to postpone that for as long as I can. Needing to buy a new controller, may also make a lot of people look at other options out there. Hence, making it all work with the current hardware keeps you your customers.
I am a bit puzzled. New firmware OS is nice, but I read that will be for new hardware models only. Not the currently supported. Same time I read that the models from Edge up are powerful enough for their purpose. Mine run at 20-25% with a number of plugins that process quite a bit of data, so i see that too.
So, will need to buy new controllers soon for all this, or can we keep what we have? I know migrating a controller to a new one can get you in a log of trouble, especially with battery devices, so I would like to postpone that for as long as I can. Needing to buy a new controller, may also make a lot of people look at other options out there. Hence, making it all work with the current hardware keeps you your customers.
Cheers Rene[/quote]
We will continue to support old versions as long as possible.
We have new hardware that these RTOS run on.[/quote]
Oh that’s disappointing - you seemed to indicate otherwise earlier.
So does that mean we are stuck with OpenWRT on existing Vera HAC’s?[/quote]
We will fix, improve the current firmware…
but we can’t put our RTOS on it…
So, there will most definitely be huge improvements…but the question was merely where the new RTOS could live…
We are talking about 2 different things…
Ezlo RTOS we have built
Vera Hardware that exists…
1)Ezlo RTOS can only go on certain chipsets for now…so we can’t put it on Vera hardware…
2)Vera hardware: we are already fixing and making it more stable and efficient.
I came across this post visiting the forum after long time.
I’m pleased to read about this acquisition and all the excitement it is driving. This probably is due to the frustration some of us experieced with Vera products. I’m one of those! I bought a Vera Plus to begin my jurney into the domotics: I bought what I thought would have been the definitive controller, supporting z-wave, zigbee and bluetooth! Wow!!!
Then I doscovered it supported z-wave pretty well, but almost no zigbee support (none of the biggest brand you can see in europe is supported, no Hue bulbs, no Xiami Aqara sensors, no Ikea Tradfri bulbs…) and that bluetooth has been disable waiting for developers to rewrite support. OOPS!
Ok, the UI has wide space for improvements, but I think the engine need much more effort to respond to expectations: I need a controller that can control the device I have.
[quote=“Domoworking, post:150, topic:199656”]but almost no zigbee support (none of the biggest brand you can see in europe is supported, no Hue bulbs, no Xiami Aqara sensors,[/quote]Keep in mind that Xiaomi Aqara is not exactly Zigbee. It’s close, but doesn’t follow the standard, so the developers would either have to add support for them specifically or they could decide not to support non-standard devices.
[quote=“Domoworking, post:150, topic:199656”]I came across this post visiting the forum after long time.
I’m pleased to read about this acquisition and all the excitement it is driving. This probably is due to the frustration some of us experieced with Vera products. I’m one of those! I bought a Vera Plus to begin my jurney into the domotics: I bought what I thought would have been the definitive controller, supporting z-wave, zigbee and bluetooth! Wow!!!
Then I doscovered it supported z-wave pretty well, but almost no zigbee support (none of the biggest brand you can see in europe is supported, no Hue bulbs, no Xiami Aqara sensors, no Ikea Tradfri bulbs…) and that bluetooth has been disable waiting for developers to rewrite support. OOPS!
Ok, the UI has wide space for improvements, but I think the engine need much more effort to respond to expectations: I need a controller that can control the device I have.
Regards[/quote]
I agree with you. Our intention and focus is to give you a controller that can control every device natively! Big task, but its our task and we are focussed on it. Stage by stage, step by step we will make progress and get there.
And thats ok for us… we should be working with them to make sure our users will have an out of box experience. It ain’t rocket science…just a lot of hard work…which we are prepared to do and have the resources.
It’s great to read that and I really appreciate your effort in reading and replying to all our messages.
If you have to work hard, please remember that you have many “nerds” ready to help you in betatesting. I’m definitely one of those (as long as it is beta, not Alpha testing )
