Vera Edge and Secondary Z-Stick

After reviewing the multiple threads in reference to Z-stick and/or USB Dongle I’ still confused…(not that it’s that hard!)

I have a brand new Vera Edge and Aeotec ZW090-A usb Z-stick; I want my Vera Edge to continue to be the primary controller and the z-stick to be a secondary controller that will allow me to get to various devices through out the house (without moving Vera) and be able to include/exclude devices and then be able to update the Vera Edge with these newly added/removed devices. The secondary function of the z-stick is to be able to perform OTA firmware updates for Gen 5 devices.

[ul][li]1st question is it possible to have Vera as primary and the Z-stick as mobile inclusion/exclusion device and if so what is the process to successfully accomplish this?[/li]
[li]2nd question will the Z-stick be able to perform OTA updates, if so how?[/li][/ul]

While you can certainly have the Z-Stick be a secondary controller, only the master controller can include new devices into the network. In this case, only teh Vera Edge would be able to include new devices.

There are a couple of options. The first option is that Gen5(Z-Wave Plus) supports Network Wide Inclusion(NWI). This allows you to include a new device anywhere in the Gen5 network, without moving the controller. The issue with this is that if your network is mostly the older generation Z-Wave devices, then NWI is less likely to work as desired.

The second option is to use the Z-Stick as the primary controller, with it plugged int to your Vera Edge. With a simple setting change in Vera, you can forgo the Vera Edge’s built-in Z-Wave radio chip and use the Z-Stick as Vera’s radio instead. With this setup, you can, power off your Vera, unplug the Z-Stick, take it and perform your inclusion, and then bring it back and plug it into Vera.

[ul][li]2nd question will the Z-stick be able to perform OTA updates, if so how?[/li][/ul]
Yes, the Z-Stick can perform OTA updates and I think it can even do so as a secondary controller, though I haven't verified this.

Unless your controller has a method for doing OTA updates(Vera does not yet), then in order to perform OTA updates, you would have to plug the Z-Stick into a PC and run the necessary software. The only example of this, that I’ve seen on the consumer market, is Aeon labs own firmware updates. These are simply a Windows .exe file that you run with the Z-Stick plugged in.

In a similar vein, is it possible to use an Aeon Labs Z-Stick with European frequency in a US model Vera Edge and enable access to mixed frequency z-wave devices? I appreciate that mixed frequency associations will not work but so long as you use the Vera as a controller can you get mixed devices to communicate?

You can physically use a European Z-Stick in a U.S. Vera. However, it is not legal to use the European frequency Z-Stick in the U.S. as it’s frequency is restricted and licensed for other purposes. The 868MHz European Z-Wave frequency is a frequency licensed for cellular network use in the U.S.

Vera can use only one Z-Wave radio. Whether that is the Z-Stick or the internal radio, it does not matter. It can use only one radio. SO, if your goal is to operate both the internal radio and the Z-Stick radio on a single Vera simultaneously, then no that is not possible.

Hello All; what is the process to move the main controller on the z-stick device instead of the vera native controller? thx for your support

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Can you describe this setup? How do I see the devices on I included on the z stick in my vera3 (UI7) PLease detail the steps if you can.

Thanks,

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Hello. Could someone please help describe process for adding a AEOTEC USB stick as secondary controller to Vera Edge. I would like to use stick on Pi and act as secondary.

Rafale77 - Thank you. Just to add clarity, my Vera Edge is my primary controller and I would like AEOTEC USB Stick as secondary. I have used ZenSys Tools and put the AEOTEC USB into learn mode and then from Vera Edge done an inclusion for generic zwave device. It detects and allows me to add and in Zensys tools it shows up as secondary controller on the same house id. As I am so new to zwave, does this sound right ? or should I do another way ?

I looks right. now try adding a device with the stick. I should work. The should remain primary.