Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration

Thanks for checking :slight_smile:
Anyways, let me know if you get one of the tracks.
For me, spending $$$ on the Z-Wave interface alone is too much… unfortunately…

Look at this one… Maybe we can “built” one :slight_smile: They also have a EU version…
http://www.whwharton.cn/product/618372795-213085870/NWD_z_wave_smart_home_US_Curtain_motor.html

[quote=“frichter09, post:22, topic:173020”]Look at this one… Maybe we can “built” one :slight_smile: They also have a EU version…
http://www.whwharton.cn/product/618372795-213085870/NWD_z_wave_smart_home_US_Curtain_motor.html[/quote]

Yeah I stumbled across that same website this morning and saw those Z-wave NWD curtain motors. Seems odd they just have a motor and not the rest of the kit. What would you connect it to? If you bought one. Maybe there are other curtain kits out there that I have not seen yet.

I might wait and do more research, if the postage wasn’t so high I might have gone for one of those CL-820 curtain rails to check it out.

Those “HC China Limited” HT-100 ones still might be an option? I emailed them as well for more information but have had no reply yet.

EDIT: I just emailed NWD to ask the question if there are compatible curtain rails for their Z-wave curtain motors ?

I am going to shoot them an email to see how to actually connect them!
I will let you know! ;D

On this first link it shows a very similar looking motor:

[url=http://www.tradevv.com/chinasuppliers/dooya32_p_1ddae0/china-Curtain-Motor.html]http://www.tradevv.com/chinasuppliers/dooya32_p_1ddae0/china-Curtain-Motor.html[/url]

Motor models: DT52E & DT52S

Looking at their other products on tradevv.com lead me to this website: Dooya

[url=http://www.dooya.com/products_3.html]http://www.dooya.com/products_3.html[/url]

So maybe Dooya makes the standard motors and curtain rail kits etc and NWD have just added Z-wave to one of the motors?

Trying to track stuff down like this is a nightmare. I only found the first link via a Google image search for “electric curtain motor” and looked at the pictures until I saw one the same as the NWD motor.

Here is a better link in English:

[url=http://en.dooya.com/products_3.html]http://en.dooya.com/products_3.html[/url]

Think I have found one of the Dooya curtain kits for sale on Aliexpress here and here on Tradekey

If you can get that curtain rail and the NWD z-wave motor and the price is right? That’s another solution right there! Assuming the Z-wave motor shows up in Vera OK?

Google images for “Dooya curtain”

Thanks for all the links!!

I think I might order the motor and then the track from here to give it a try! http://en.dooya.com/products_3.html

Fingers crossed :slight_smile:

[quote=“frichter09, post:27, topic:173020”]Thanks for all the links!!

I think I might order the motor and then the track from here to give it a try! http://en.dooya.com/products_3.html

Fingers crossed :)[/quote]

If you manage to get pricing / shipping costs for the NWD / Dooya kit? please let me know. It could work out cheaper for you as those USA z-wave blind controllers are well expensive compared to the ones we can get in Europe!

EDIT: I’ve emailed the Dooya trade sales, will let you know if I hear anything.

I’ve had a reply from Dooya and lots of product information sent to me (No prices) which I have not read as yet. However they did not answer my question about using the NWD Z-wave motor with the Dooya curtain track ?

Even if you were able to replace the motor with the NWD Z-wave one you would then lose the ability to use the Dooya Zig-bee wall controller and hand held remote control and you would only be able to control the curtain motor via Z-wave and Vera.

[i]"From your inquiry mail., Z-wave is old network protocol, and we are using Zig-bee network protocol which is new protocol. It is more powerful than old one. I am sure you know this ^^ I don’t think Z-wave and Zig-bee system are compatible, because they are different protocol.

For the curtain motor, attached is our curtain motor introduction. You may take for reference. Pls kindly let us know if you are interested in AC or DC motors. I think you can tell us more of your requirement."[/i]

I have several motor product documents to look through that they sent to me.

So they are using Zig-bee in their standard motors and remote controllers etc. Ideally we would want a curtain motor with both Z-wave and Zig-Bee so you could use the Dooya remote / wall controllers and also control it via the Vera Home Automation box.

Attached is the first image out of several:

Although thinking about it, if the Z-wave motor was compatible and worked with the Dooya track and also with Vera you would not even need the Dooya remote control and wall controller. You could replace them with an Aeon Labs Mini Mote and pretty much any Z-wave wall switch (using association group) to control the curtains. Or even a Z-wave wall scene controller like the Duwi one.

So that leaves three questions.

  1. Is the NWD Z-wave motor compatible with the Dooya curtain track?
  2. Can you buy the Dooya curtain track on its own? Without their Zig-bee motor and remote / wall controller.
  3. What is the price?

Attached is the Dooya document for the mains voltage DT52E motor which has the radio (Zig-bee) they also have an external dry contact for switch function.

Comparing the connection end of the Dooya motor with the NWD z-wave one they look to be the same! See motors.jpg

Well I have confirmation from a chap at NWD that their Z-wave curtain motor will work with VeraLite!

However from the short message I received it is still unclear if this NWD Z-wave motor will fit the Dooya curtain tracks? But sounds like NWD may have their own curtain tracks? I have asked for more information.

Message:

"Hello,

I am Q Li, Our curtain motors can be connected with veralite,

But Curtains motor must be good with our curtain track

Thanks"

Wow… thanks for all the info!!!
Yeah now we only need to know if the tracks would work.
I sent them an email myself but no luck yet :frowning:

Have you guys looked at using a micro controller yet? I was able to build an alarm interface for an otherwise unsupported alarm using an Arduino and I know they have motor control shields that just snap on the top check out this thread http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,12167.0.html

Also I’m not sure if you figured out the wiring for that motor controller at the beginning of the thread but it seems like the control wires just need a momentary short on the control neutral to activate think of it like four garage door buttons with one wire on bottom and four on top so black connects to the bottom of all buttons and the other four connect to the top so they can individually short against the black as needed. This is my best guess from the diagram

That NWD Z-wave motor does fit the Dooya curtain tracks!

This is what the guy from NWD said:

[b]"Yes , it is Suitable for Dooya curtain tracks. Curtain motor is also Dooya,but we change it to z-wave.

Dooya is our Partners"[/b]

So that’s pretty much what I suggested that NWD had just added Z-wave to a Dooya motor.

I still don’t have any real pricing or know where you can purchase the NWD Motor / Dooya track kit other than Aliexpress.

But I think if the price is right this could be a very good solution. :wink:

Also have you noticed the EU Z-wave motor is more $ than the USA one. I have asked why ? Also trying to work out where we can purchase these from.

OK I have had one reply already from that Aliexpress seller I linked to here. I informed him/her the NWD motor fits the Dooya curtain track and asked if he can sell the track only without the Dooya (Zig-bee) motor and remote control / wall controller this is what he said:

“Thanks for your message and information offered.
Of course you can only buy track from us.
if sample, the track with all small parts is 35 USD/m.
Max length is 12m.
Could you please tell me how many pcs do you need? what is the length of each one?
I would like to show you our best price if your quantity is good.”

This doesn’t sound too bad, $35 is 21 GBP and if you bought more the price would probably come down. Obviously postage costs could bump it up quite a bit.

Here’s the reply from NWD:

[b]"1. I don’t know why our z-wave motor is expensive than US. But our z-wave motor is very good.
2. No , we don’t use Dooya’s switch, we make switch by ourself.
3. Yes ,we have Dooya’s motor tracks.

Sorry , i don’t where can buy Dooya’s products in Europe.

Thanks"[/b]

Not that helpful…

This is something new I have not seen before by a company called Vision who have some Z-wave products.

ZW4101 Z-Wave Curtain Control Module (Signal/Relay)

I can’t see any User manual for it.

I guess this could be used to control an existing none Z-wave curtain motor ?

[quote=“cw-kid, post:35, topic:173020”]That NWD Z-wave motor does fit the Dooya curtain tracks!

This is what the guy from NWD said:

[b]"Yes , it is Suitable for Dooya curtain tracks. Curtain motor is also Dooya,but we change it to z-wave.

Dooya is our Partners"[/b]

So that’s pretty much what I suggested that NWD had just added Z-wave to a Dooya motor.

I still don’t have any real pricing or know where you can purchase the NWD Motor / Dooya track kit other than Aliexpress.

But I think if the price is right this could be a very good solution. :wink:

Also have you noticed the EU Z-wave motor is more $ than the USA one. I have asked why ? Also trying to work out where we can purchase these from.[/quote]

That is excellent!!!
And the price for the track is also not too bad.
Thanks Stuart.

I will have some spare time in two weeks and might order one and will let you know how it works.
Flo

Btw.
I will see if I can get the Z-wave motor first, if that works I will order the tracks because I have some big windows at my place…